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Gift card, E-gift, gift certificate, gift voucher or gift token are different names for a prepaid card, the balance (face value) of which can be spent in a particular store or chain of markets. There are two types of gift cards: physical and electronic.
Technically, it is a generated code (sometimes along with a password) for a specified amount for payment in a store. Most often, the desired denomination can be selected when placing an order, there may also be boundaries, for example, from $ 5 to $ 1000. After the purchase, it is sent by e-mail or, in the case of physical cards, to a real address.
The idea is simple: money as a gift may be socially irrelevant, and instead of a thing that may be useless, a “Gift Card” is used as a gift and the recipient decides what to buy. Simply put, a ready-made card is a full-fledged, independent payment tool without banking transactions.
As a result, due to its popularity with consumers and the convenience of fraudsters, anti-fraud systems are taking particular care in this direction. Therefore, to believe that the realm of gift cards - "the promised land" - is wrong and naive.
Characteristics of gift cards.
1. Electronic.
There is an unusually widespread myth: "An electronic gift card cannot be blocked." This is not true, the balance of the card in this case is nominal; information is stored in the merchant's or bank's database. This means that the cards themselves are returnable and the probability of blocking depends on the material, anti-fraud system, "weather" and so on.
From the buyer's point of view, the financial turnover from ordering and receiving a card to purchasing or transferring to a third party is entirely within the scope of online activity. This eliminates the risks associated with the delivery address and the sale of goods. However, it does not override a variety of client verifications and billing address validations.
2. Physical. In contrast to electronic cards, physical cards also have a material carrier of information - plastic, bar codes, and a magnetic stripe. This makes blocking less likely (more difficult for the issuer to intervene) than unambiguously refundable electronic ones, but it all depends on the type of physical card and store.
Since a physical card is an object delivered by courier services, an address with all the ensuing consequences is required to receive a parcel: AVS, a niche for sale, opening hours of shops or post offices, shipping (and many official intermediaries do not accept them).
3. For physical and electronic in general. In theory, the card may have an expiration date or additional commission upon purchase, however, these parameters are now regulated by law and are almost never found in the West. It is practiced in the CIS countries, which, for obvious reasons, are not taken into account.
Also, there are two types of cards: one-time and upgradeable. Unlike one-time ones that burn out after use, updatable ones save the code (or a combination of code-password) with the ability to re-enter the balance - usually via a link leading to the presentation of the card (comes to the mail) or somewhere on the store page.
In addition, the cards have restrictions on the regions in which they can be applied, for example: US, EU, Canada, Worldwide / RegionFree. Depends on the nature of a particular store (local, global) and its assortment - in the global, regional cards can also be sold.
As a rule, the details and conditions of use are indicated in the product description, and the region can be additionally marked in the name of the card with a note like “Gift Card Europe / EU”.
Features of gift card shops.
There are four types of gift card shops: standard, reseller, specialty, and corporate.
1. Standard. Clothing stores or other stores, with the ability to sell cards of your (and only your) brand. In other words, store "A" can only have "A" cards, not "B" or "C". Gift cards are a good marketing ploy, so many people use them to expand their assortment or for advertising purposes.
Standard stores have a generalized anti-fraud system, where gift cards are treated in the same way as orders of other categories, or with slight deviations (preset rules). Thus, this type of store is the easiest to operate.
However, it is important to note that the overall level of the store's anti-fraud system matters - if it is extremely high, the statement “most simple” may become irrelevant.
2. Intermediaries. Continuing the analogy, these are again clothing stores, but in which, in addition to cards "A", there are also "B", "C" and others. If in the first case the cards are marketing, here they are a developed category of goods and one of the items of income, and orders can be considered in parallel with clothing.
Due to these circumstances and their result - meaningful statistics, intermediary antifraud systems have a larger set of rules regarding gift cards than standard stores. Naturally, working with the second type is more difficult (all other things being equal).
In some ways, both types are connected: an intermediary can sell standard cards. For example: when it is too tough to buy card "A" in a standard store "A", you can try to enter from the other side - through an intermediary, and buy "A" in store "B". Of course, it makes sense if the anti-fraud system "B" is softer, otherwise it will only complicate everything.
3. Special. They sell exclusively gift cards and nothing else. Specialty stores focus on a single product category that is also fundamentally prone to fraudulent attacks - gift cards. Includes two types:
• secondary market - selling and buying gift cards from hands. It also happens in intermediary stores, the difference is that apart from cards, there is nothing in special ones;
• aggregators. A large number of items (usually tens or hundreds), while cards of other users are not sold.
Well-tuned mechanisms of anti-fraud systems, well-thought-out scenarios for all occasions and an extensive array of rules are not uncommon here, and the larger the aggregator, the more likely its anti-fraud system is. Consistent work with this species certainly does not go without complications and surprises.
Intermediaries (2) and aggregators (3.2) also have a common, non-obvious feature: in one store at positions "A", "B" and "C" the anti-fraud system can have different settings. More accessible: let's say that scammers buy "A" rather than "C" much more often, therefore, the procedure for confirming the order of "C" can be slightly simplified.
This simultaneously saves store resources (man-hours, checks) and makes life easier for customers, while technically statistics continue to be collected, which allows adjusting settings in real time. This partly follows from the principle of comparing fraudulent orders mentioned in previous lectures, partly from practice.
The system can be called "flexible", however, "situational" too - it all depends on the size of the store, its policy and the total number of orders. Not every store has this feature (and you don't know about it in advance), but as needed, you can try to lower the brand's liquidity.
4. Corporate. Services not for a wide audience, which are addressed by various companies and organizations on individual terms: bulk purchases, official cooperation procedures, checks. Also, the category can be in any of the types of stores - somewhere on the page you will be invited to contact support or follow the link.
In fact, closer to the deal from a legal entity, accordingly, you may need bank accounts, shell companies (or their visibility thanks to information), communication with service representatives, verification. In terms of the speed and frequency of work processes and financial turnover, the most unattractive method, but quite serious.
Work processes.
Once again, we note the importance of all components of masking: IP address, digital fingerprints and an active session-cookie, warm-up, client data. All this is especially important when working with a direction that is considered risky from the point of view of anti-fraud systems and banks, but in this context, the choice of material, stores and structure is no less important.
Between this and then. To a certain extent, the described rules are relevant not only for gift cards, but also for electronic goods in general: activation keys, game codes, virtual balances, etc. Subjects are related, meaningful details differ.
1. Material. The first thing that comes to mind is credit cards. This is the most accessible and understandable way of working, in many respects consistent with the already familiar trends: firstly, it is more efficient to use less famous banks like Chase, BofA, CapOne, CreditOne, WellFargo, Citi, TD and others.
Of course, you should not be categorical, you can work productively with everyone. But such an operation as buying a gift card (all the more, given the availability of history and "habits" of the owner) by default creates additional risks, and with the use of capricious banks, everything is only exacerbated.
Secondly, the card system (Visa, MC, Amex), type (Debit, Credit) and level (Classic, Platinum, Gold). It is insignificant for the result, except for the specifics: for example, fast chargebacks from Amex or balance from Platinum. However, it matters statistically, in the form of the permeability of certain bins - this is always important. Let us also recall the lethality of card checkers.
The second most popular method: working with PayPal. Includes brute accounts and self-registrations. In the first case, the most important element of work is gift card shops, because the order most often comes to the email of the PayPal account. The password from the account itself and the mail may not match, therefore, the order will simply be lost.
As a result, there are two options: look for stores with the ability to purchase on an alternative mail or accounts with access to mail. Self-registers (or logs) automatically solve this problem, and all other details of the work are the subtleties of PayPal itself, that is, rocking, trust, payment instruments, cancellations and limits.
The last most popular and the first most resource-intensive method: special material - enroll, bank accounts. There are no obvious advantages, but in some circumstances it can become a lifeline: request for mini-deposits or verifications, work with corporate stores and services (for example PayPal), balance issues and billing.
2. Answering the question about finding stores, there are no fundamental differences between ordinary goods and gift cards: it is enough to use the keywords "E-Gift cards" or "Gift certificate" all kinds of shops.
There is an easy way to find the name of a gift card that is guaranteed to go somewhere: to estimate the demand. Services for buying gift cards on our forum are concentrated in the section "VCC, prepaid, checks, gift cards, coupons, vouchers". In their list, you can find brands of different liquidity (the more% in your favor, the more liquid).
In addition to private services, there are peer-to-peer financial exchange platforms such as Paxful. This is a site for exchanging cryptocurrencies, bank transfers, payment systems and, among other things, gift certificates between users.
Here and on similar resources, the interest rates for the exchange of certificates can differ favorably, or you can find some interesting name of the store, with which the "locals" do not work. Unfortunately, usually in such services there are extremely unpleasant conditions - various verifications.
Liquidity is determined by the store's product: brand awareness of clothing, electronics, appliances and market demand vary from 15 to 90 %. In addition, liquidity serves as a kind of indicator of the complexity of a store to work, albeit inferior. The higher the percentages, the at least the "standard" stores are more demanding.
This, however, does not exclude the likelihood of finding an easier "intermediary". So, having chosen the name, a path opens to search for stores that have the required certificate in stock: "Buy" A "Gift Card". If the work is still not built using standard means, you can resort to tricks: enhanced warming up, user-agent of the phone, bedding.
In addition, a search by product categories ("notebook", "phone") together with keywords ("Gift cards") or a banal check of the assortment of everyone who is not lazy will notice "standard" stores that are not involved in the turnover of "aggregators" and do not have "intermediaries". In short, unpopular.
3. The structure of the work. When interacting with stores, there are three main strategies: using someone else's accounts, your own, or using a call. Logs, all sorts of accesses or brute-accounts (with or without their own, saved payment tools) can be referred to as "aliens". To "own" and to work as a call - registered manually.
When touching other people's accounts, you should refer to the information on the relevant topics, since working with gift cards in this case is one of the ways to monetize accounts, and not vice versa. Mentioned for the purpose of providing information rather than as a guide to action.
Placing an order by calling (ringing) is built similarly to any other forms of this work: substitution of a phone number, contact with store support. In the context of gift cards, it can be regarded as an alternative “approach” if the usual methods are no longer valid, as well as in the form of tests and information mining.
Then, having defined the goal and strategy, you can move on to work with the store. Basic warming up and masking are absolutely the same as when working with clothing items and in order not to repeat themselves, these details will be omitted. On the other hand, the direction of gift cards has distinctive features that are worth considering in detail.
Basket. Gift cards are quite mobile goods, the order with them can be modified. For example, 1 unit of goods with a nominal value of 200, 2 units with a nominal value of 100, 4 units of 50 - in all cases the amount is equal to 200, but each of the orders will be different. Moreover, the order can be placed together with any other product, conditional "socks" to the client's address.
Also, for electronic cards, you can select the delivery date, in other words, timed. All this in different combinations (today "socks", tomorrow the card) is a kind of warm-up, with the help of which you can earn store loyalty. At the same time, it should be remembered: no "socks" in the order will relieve you of the evaluation as a "order with a certificate".
Logically, dealing with liquid stores is more difficult than dealing with illiquid ones. Sometimes you need to lower the amount of orders if you want to regularly sell only those certificates for which they give from 50%. With illiquid ones, on the contrary, because the work is relatively easier - you can increase the amount, thereby leveling the difference in percentage. For example:
A liquid certificate with a face value of 200 can be sold for 50%, minus investments (for example, $ 15 - a card and socks), the net profit will be: $ 85. In an illiquid store with a lower antifraud level, the denomination can be increased to 400, then at a rate of 25% per certificate, the profit will be the same ($ 85), but the difference in antifraud systems will remain.
The example is formal and does not take into account the performance of the material or losses, but in practice it says that it is not necessary to immediately rush to liquid stores and it makes sense to give preference to illiquid ones, especially being inexperienced in this area.
E-mails. At the stage of registration and then, placing an order, you will need to enter a total of two mails: the client (buyer) and the addressee of the electronic gift card (recipient). Both parameters are included in that array of anti-fraud system rules, which ultimately determine the fate of the order. Priorities, on average, are:
• a decent domain from among @gmail, @yahoo, @hotmail / outlook, @aol, in extreme cases - @mail.com;
• if technically feasible, then corporate ("@ mysite.com") or specific like @comcast, @cox, @att;
• preferably with a name in the address - [email protected]. If the name is taken, you can add numbers - [email protected] but without fanaticism;
• the recipient's name can be generated on sites similar to this: https://www.fakenamegenerator.com or, at least, combined from different;
• undoubtedly, registration of social networks by mail and temporary staying can have a positive effect.
For diversity reasons, you can use a different domain for the recipient's email, such as the Gmail buyer, while the recipient is yahoo. This is not to say that mail plays a major role in the evaluation of an order. But there is also reason to believe that these parameters are still taken into account, depending on the anti-fraud system.
In many stores, you can ignore the opportunity to send the certificate immediately to the addressee, instead using delivery to yourself or simply entering the buyer's mail in the recipient's field (to then donate in person, use it yourself, etc.). The method is viable, but the concept of “recipient” may well increase store loyalty.
Personal message. A gift certificate is usually accompanied by something like a "postcard" - the text written by the buyer when placing an order in a special field on the product page. There is no need to write in verse or mathematical formulas - it is enough to compose a meaningful, natural message.
It can be birthday greetings, wishes on the occasion of a wedding, anniversary, funeral and other memorable events; a simple thank you or, say, a quote from a book. On the Internet, you can find entire sites on this topic for the request "congratulations on ... in English", which, nevertheless, are already worn up and down.
Leaving the field blank is not a good idea, because the message is somehow part of the whole customer image. Writing the same thing every time, especially in the same store - the idea is even worse for obvious reasons. The solution is simple: to replenish vocabulary with semantic constructions from the aforementioned sites and be creative.
AVS & Phone. When working with electronic certificates, there is no point in manipulating billing - the order comes by e-mail, unlike physical cards, which require a parcel delivery address. And yet, in addition to the address, billing has a phone number, and a call from a store, as you know, can become a nuisance.
Historically, the number is not a completely accurate billing attribute (having several, separating it into work and home is completely normal), therefore, as a countermeasure to calls, it can be changed. Despite this, at least for electronic certificates it will be better to leave the number correct.
Reasons: firstly, most stores are more likely to ask to be contacted than to call themselves, and if they call, it is either a small store with a small number of orders, or an "error" in terms of statistics; secondly, the correct number is a positive feature through the eyes of antifraud systems. For physical change as needed.
Time orientation: when to work and how long to wait for results. With physical cards, you need to take into account the working hours and dispatch of parcels of the store, electronic ones for the most part do not depend on time, with the exception of manual verification of orders during non-round-the-clock work of operators in small stores.
The typical purchase results for this area are as follows:
• Instant. Execution of the order instantly or within 5 minutes. For electronic gift cards, a positive result, for physical gift cards - conditional, since the order has not yet been delivered;
• Instant Cancel, Decline and Verification. Cancellation immediately or within 5 minutes (Cancel), refusal before ordering (Decline), and request for verification. It does not differ from working with other categories of goods and demonstrates a negative response from the anti-fraud system, problems with a payment method or a store;
• Answer from 20 minutes to 12 hours - either order fulfillment or cancellation. In the case of gift cards, this is the average processing time without taking into account the working schedule, but if the store previously gave an instant answer, it may mean re-analysis of the anti-fraud system or the operator's check of the order;
• Over 24 hours. Generally a bad sign: manual checking is almost inevitable; attempts to contact the owner of the material are possible. Moreover, it is not uncommon for a prolonged silence to be followed by the blocking of an account in the store if the client has been identified as a fraud.
Important note: some types of reactions may not be foreseen in principle - for example, processing will always take 12 hours. In such a situation, it will be possible to understand the attitude of the anti-fraud system only on the basis of the "Yes / No" results. Usually, you can find the approximate frames on the checkout page or in the product description.
For example, if something similar to "Instant Shipping" is written - apparently, there is a technical ability to process orders quickly. On the other hand, this is also influenced by the general condition of the anti-fraud system: at some point in time, due to the "bad mood", it will not be inclined to compromise, regardless of the actions of an individual client.
Purchase - purchase of a physical product using a gift card. A physical card can be sold at a local store, an electronic card can be paid online. It is not possible to use physical for payment on the Internet or electronic in a local store with every brand.
The craft of gift cards, in particular electronic ones, allows you to use all the advantages of the sphere at once: AVS, completely online activity, a developed economic niche, relative independence from specific stores and services (not counting material suppliers, of course).
With all this, it is not always possible to implement a card in a stingy service or sell it on the forum, for example, due to its illiquidity; in addition, the certificate can initially be bought for the purpose of merchandising, for reasons of a specific assortment, brand, store, or for other reasons. And if this happens, you should follow the instructions.
First, payment: in stores there are restrictions on product categories, for example, you cannot buy another gift card with a gift card. Then the button for payment with a certificate will be inactive and / or this prohibition may appear in the product description.
A store account can have a top-up balance in order to deposit a number of cards for use at the same time. It looks like this: the position is worth 1000, the total balance for a one-time payment is added with two certificates of 500 denomination.
If there is no balance, then during the checkout process, they may allow the use of several different certificates as a payment method. And on the contrary, these options may not exist at all - there is no balance and payment with only one certificate, and if the product is more expensive - an additional payment.
Second, addresses: stores, especially liquid ones, are biased towards the addresses of well-known intermediaries and forwarding services, and even blacklisted them. A dubious address is a risk factor and it's best not to try your luck if possible. There is a complication on the side of intermediaries: not everyone accepts gift cards or goods paid for by them.
Of course, the order is made with a disguise (IP address, system) of the desired country and location for the addressee of the gift card (it is assumed that the buyer gives the card to a third party as a gift). In this case, it is not necessary that the name coincides with the one entered when purchasing the card - an uncritical indicator and in which case it is decided by a call.
Third, to check the operability and balance of the card on the store website there is almost always a special column (or button, page) with the name "Check Balance / Check Gift Card". Check if necessary, preferably from the IP address and masking of the country of the owner of the material, otherwise you can provoke blocking of both the card and the account.
It is better to move from receiving an order to purchasing after a natural period of time, say, a day or several hours (if you buy on behalf of the person to whom this gift was handed over), but you can transfer the certificate to the services of a stingy immediately.
Reuse of payment methods - credit cards, accounts of payment systems. A cost-saving solution that is particularly effective in this industry. The amount of an order with a gift card is, on average, an order of magnitude lower than when working with other categories of goods, which ultimately kills less material and wastes balance.
Two scenarios for material reuse:
• after order cancellation (Decline, Cancel, blocking). It is rational when it is impossible to check the performance of the material with the supplier and subsequently return the money if he turns out to be dead. Non-returnable bases, elapsed time for verification, simple reluctance, etc.;
• after the implementation of the certificate (sale, merchandise). Implementation should be considered the receipt of goods "on hand" or a net payment, until then subsequent activity increases the likelihood of death of the material, and hence the first order. However, these circumstances are influenced by the type of material and the rate of return.
After the cancellation, it is necessary in order to more accurately verify the quality of the material and masking. If the order went to another store (with a different anti-fraud system), it seems that the matter is in the anti-fraud system of the first one and the client; if you cannot write anywhere from the word at all, even lowering the liquidity or the amount, there must be a problem in the material.
When used after implementation, it maximizes profits with virtually no additional financial costs if masking elements such as an IP address are still available. This raises two pertinent questions: which store and the amount of the order to work with.
Firstly, working with the same store is advisable only with minor changes in the disguise, otherwise the chance of re-evaluating the client from scratch increases and the loyalty earned by a successful purchase may evaporate. If the IP address is already out of date, it is worth choosing a new store or postponing the case on the back burner so that the changes are understandable.
Secondly, the amount of the order. In order to avoid the same type of actions, it is better to order in one store for different amounts - more or less, depending on the type and level of the card. In different ones - as desired and without kinks, and if there were changes in the masking, then you can lower the amount in order to slightly ease the pressure on the material.
Speaking about the time after which it is acceptable to use the material again, the recommendations are as follows: after canceling, you can not delay and work immediately, warming up a new store, but you can go the other way - do not shake the material with many attempts one after another, since it can hypothetically be alive - waiting, for example, a day will not make it worse.
After implementation, you need to strike a balance between the desire to try and the pattern of ordinary buyers. Of course, buying oneself with a certificate every couple of hours is at least suspicious, at the same time waiting for months is not an option.
Ultimately, it remains to try somewhere between "immediately" and "sometime in the future", and then adjust the behavior in accordance with the reaction of certain bins and anti-fraud systems. Unfortunately, there are no universal answers.
As for accounts of payment systems, the health status in most cases is known, because they mostly have access. If the order does not go through, this shows the degree of trust and swing of the account itself. There are no differences in time, except for the characteristics of the payment system (calendar restrictions on expenses, etc.).
When re-ordering, it is reasonable to change the recipient of the gift card. In general, the reuse of material not only brings additional profit and understanding of the operation of certain stores, but also allows you to determine the vector for solving problems, to make sure of the material, disguise, bins.
Summing up everything described above, we can safely say that the field of gift cards is rich and difficult. Alas, this is not the best option for a beginner, but if the choice has already been made, you should not start with the most liquid and complex stores.
That's all. Moving on to the questions, put a "?"
htuf_alf
does it make sense to use the map as part of the store warm-up?
Yes, but this is a question from the area of warming up, not working with Gift. You need to understand that warming up consists of many parameters and one specific indicator in most cases will not play the main role, gift is it or something else.
izolenta
How many, approximately, approaches "successful" can be done with one CC?
If we take into account only those that have already been implemented once, then from one to three, in the best case - 5, but this is a direct mark of the limit.
yarah
as always, great lecture. However, it also mentions "not the best option for beginners" again, okay, could you guys lead us to the best option for us beginners and give us a complete practical step by step method to get started practicing and making money?
thanks
Illiquid for different billing / shipping under the sting; redoubt - in short, a thing.
goldenbaum
Is it possible to use a flood or some kind of spam to the CH mail, etc. in order to get lost in the KX mail, so as not to change the mail and load the AF?
Yes, flooding is used quite often.
yarah
if you can say it in English that would be great, because the translation came out a bit out of shape : p
Reroute, illiquid staff on a different bill / shipp.
pana-cashe
how quickly do I need to redeem a certificate after purchase?
It is better to move from receiving an order to purchasing after a natural period of time, say, a day or several hours (if you buy on behalf of the person to whom this gift was handed over), but you can transfer the certificate to the services of a stingy immediately.
riba12
did I understand correctly - that almost any shop has a gift system, and that it is easier to beat the gift (at the beginning) than to try to beat things with a problem by changing the beat / spike, etc.?
No, not every shop has Gift, and it is not even the simplest sphere to call it. Plus, things are a very broad concept: both ballpoint pens and hours for thousands of cu. e. - things.
ibintegral Will
we have online gifting or clothes?
Gift.
The same as in the case of goods: the larger the amount, the more likely additional vigilance may arise. The average bill in gift boxes is from 50 to 500.
Since there are no more questions, thank you for your presence and wish you good luck.
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Lecturer: s1mple
So, well, everyone drove the lecture so far.
I think you already know that Gift \ e-gift - These are gift certificates.
E-gift - sent to soap
Gift is a physical map sent to your home address.
Because it is a gift, you must act as if you are choosing a gift.
When you give a gift to someone, you also wish something, health / happiness, etc.
So here too, if this is not done, questions may arise.
If I understand that the shop is serious, I do the first or second hammering in order to feel it, I always leave a good long wish.
Forget translate for these cases, because it will be clumsy to translate, because our spoken language is different from USA.
Therefore, now I will give a link where you can watch congratulations.
They have been translated into English already, and the translation there is extremely good.
This website is temporarily blocked
You can also change the themes of congratulations.
Soon the new year, which means the gift will be very willing to give, the fraud will weaken, therefore, here's a mini case) in the new year the gift goes very well - a couple of days before ng, and after ng
Also the main point, the gift like to ring , either ask you to call, or they will call themselves, but as a rule, they usually always ask - this is the norm, they are afraid that this is not necessary.
Just check the number cc \ exp \ color \ billing address \ mail of the sender of the gift \ mail of the recipient of the gift \ congratulations, that is, all the info that you indicated.
I will answer in advance, because each stream is a person who asks such a question))
All our mails! The sender's mail is ours, the recipient's mail is ours. We have a password and access to them. These are our mails.
We use mail as a sender - to check further what happened to the order, the call request will come to her or some third-party problems, like cancel, etc.
The recipient's mail is 100% access because the gift will fall specifically there.
Now a few words about buying Gift or selling to buyers.
In the early stages, when I was a newbie like you, I climbed to carding Walmart / Victoria Secret, etc.
Better not hit them yet. Will come with experience.
You just waste money and good cards, and the stingy usually take one of the super top shops.
BUT nothing bothers you, start writing to all the stingy people on different forums and find out for your shop which you can drive or offer your own.
As a rule, many can take it.
I also made gift for food, and wrote to all stingy.
As a result, I sold to buy-ups + on the paxful site, but, you ask, how do you work then if you can't beat the top shops.
You can throw off some gifts to the stingy if they agree and will take it.
If not, you can just comrade in the middle / drop. But there is a nuance here.
In the name of the recipient of the Gift, you need to indicate the name, which will then be used to redeem it.
Regarding small and more or less medium-sized shops
If the name does not converge, they will not send the goods of the
top and medium shops by gift, this does not apply, they usually do not care, or there is no link to the name
further, you have chosen the product, and when you pay, you simply enter in the line GIFT CARD NUMBER or GIFT CARD the number of your GIFT
can sometimes be a GIFT of the form Number: ************* Pin-code: *******
This is the same when making a purchase, just write the card number and pincode and all
Card pincode is Gift.
Different merchandise and different types of gift display Someone
just has a number, and someone has no difference between them with a pincode, sometimes it is done for security purposes
What do I do and how, in principle, I work
After the goods arrived in the middle, I do not immediately pull him to my country.
I make a few more Gift in different shops to accumulate goods in the middle.
Only then I pull myself or sell it in the middle with the product, or separately, or already in my country I sell it to friends / acquaintances, everything is scattered very well.
Otherwise, there are a lot of avito / olx sites or some other. I do not beat shops until I lose my pulse, because of this, I have shops that constantly send gifts, without any problems for about 5 years already.
Not so long ago I pushed my list of shops, and everything was also sent.
The less you drive into him, the greater the chance that in the future he will also confidently give you, but, for this, you need to constantly supplement your list.
Some shops after receiving the pack, I can not drive in for about a month, and sometimes even half a year.
There are pluses in this, and good ones.
For example, you will inject a bunch of Gift into one shop a week.
If they were rarely taken there, then the shop will think about it and start doing more serious checks.
As a result, it can pull your product back (if it is still on the way) or turn to the cops, who, upon request, will go to the address in the middle, and in the middle everything will give out all your goods.
Therefore, I work according to such a strategy, but even if it happens that you run out of money or you withdraw your entire bank, then you have shops in which you inject 1 cc and you will immediately have a profit and thus you will always have money, even if, for example, you are testing something, spent a lot, then you have a rear in such shops that have been sent to you and will be sent because they are not fucked up.
At this stage, do you have any questions? in the order of the queue put "?"
dat_user1
Will you share some shops?))
s1mple
shop will be available today during the online show,
it still gives without any problems
izolenta
that is, we do not hit one shop a lot and are looking for other shops
s1mple
If you weigh Gift every day, you will simply kill him,
this applies to small and medium-sized shops, for top or medium-sized shops - they are often weighed out with Gift
koba787
af weaker when we buy Gift ? or does he not care?
s1mple
af on gifts is always higher because you send to an email address, as the delivery address is not a billing address, thus you have a fraud.
BUT shops are accustomed to this and do not pay attention to it because they understand that sending is sent to e-mail, therefore they do not worry, and if you drive an address (an address in the middle or a drop) onto the spike, you will be canceled in a great chance.
koba787
when do we buy Gift? not when we buy Gift, but when we pay part of it with GIFT.
When we buy Gift there is no fraud at all.
A sock is better for the state or city where we are shopping.
It doesn't matter, but it's better to just do it better.
koba787
It turns out it makes sense not just to siphon gifts, but to use them for a large purchase to reduce the anger af?
s1mple
Stop, no. The product is not driven in.
You drive in with ss. If you attach another gift there, you will simply lose everything and there is no sense in it at all
s1mple
drove in, got a gift, bought
izolenta
What is the difference between large and small shops? Only fraud? Or are there more features? And I still don't understand the meaning of Gift if AF is higher and it is more difficult to work with Gift in terms of money. less profit. Or am I missing something?
user80
How much money can you buy at a time in a small shop?
s1mple
centurion_52: either it is indicated in the gift, or there is no term
user80: depends on the maximum gift in the shop, I will explain this when driving in
deadhasan2
I make a gift in the name of the drop and buy them for the drop I understood
centurion_52 correctly
I mean that the gift can die from the charge?
s1mple
izolenta: it is easier to work with Gifts, I say, shops are used to the fact that Gifts are fraudulent, they do not make serious checks on them. Of course, they have top-end and antifraud is completely different, there you will have instant cancellations.
centurion_52: they can recall it of course
user80
i.e. can not buy several Gift at once?
s1mple
but the shops have a mark, when you carding, you put a checkmark that gift non refundable, but, as a rule, it does not really affect this) if they charge that charged:
user80
why not? it is not possible to combine Gift with different packs in all shops, and if there are several Gift in a shop in a row for the same name, then they will already be checking.
What do you mean by different packs?
well, 2 gift, 2 goods, 2 packs
Several gift, bought one pack.
A couple of days later we bought another Gift, for another pack, provided that it was the same shop.
If they are different, then at least immediately, one Gift was purchased, went to another shop, and purchased.
so if there are no more questions then now go to zoom.
Setting the sphere it is by default.
There are no special serious aspects in it.
something deeper, will come with experience, and if there is a need for it at all.
I use if the sphere, I use purchased or generated configs. Genesis is not always good, because it just selects the parameters for you.
Purchased configs - these are casts of a real system
sock has already written - this is 911 socks
Config generation.
I uncheck Use Sphere GL.
Sometimes shop banners are displayed incorrectly with it.
At least in Amazon there are problems, so I almost always cut it off with the purchased config, you have a minimum setting because your config is real hardware.
Buy configs for devices, MacBook / iPhone / iPad. It flies with a bang.
Another point - never go to a shop via a direct link. Direct link is here so when shop.com
go this way or shop com
or just shop
where the shop - this is our store's name
I check time there is a time zone use whatleaks or fake vision.
We go to the shop and start to warm up. We warm for 20-30 minutes.
Always take the rule - warming up for 20-30 minutes is minimal.
For example, I warmed hotels on a booking for about 2-2.5 hours) because the hotel is not liquid, the direction, and the amount is high.
Now we will not be warming up for 30 minutes, so as not to delay, I will just show exactly the meaning of warming up and how it is done.
So that you have the essence of
warming up - this is stuffing visits on the site - cookies.
Any of your actions will be visible in terms of cookies, and the most important aspect during driving, check the rules of the shop.
You, as a real buyer (as we pretend to be), should be interested in the policy of the shop)
How they send it, which cards are accepted for payment, the time of order processing, etc.
This information will be extremely important to us.
We start walking around the shop.
Warming up is extremely easy, you just poke, look, read, in general, make it look like a real buyer.
You choose a gift or a product.
The coolest thing is when gifts are made by an advertising banner on the site, they say, you walked around the shop, chose a gift and such: "Oh, there are gift cards" and this will be reflected in visits to the site that you chose the product, and clicked on the banner.
I do not warm up in the live chat from the word at all. I can just ask questions about the order or clarify something.
Why do I find warm-up in live chat bad? For example, you have a CC, the name is Ivan Smith, you said in the chat that your name is Ivan Smith, you communicate, ask questions The manager is loyal to you, you make an order, clap, the card is invalid or there is not enough money.
You take another CC carding but the manager will not have loyalty to you, but, on the contrary, will already be on the alert.
You take the goods that Ivan Smith took, and the name on the card you already have Petr Ivanov - 2 different people at all.
You are wasting time + loyalty of the manager + probably everything and the order too.
We see quick links here and there is shipping information, information on the shop, etc.
This is what I told you about when driving in, always check.
The shop sees that you have read this info, which means you have a real interest in the specific work, how it is delivered, etc.
When you buy something for your money, we automatically do the same.
We look at the items for delivery, how and where, how much it costs
So here you can analyze your real purchase, and do against the background of this by driving in the shipping details.
Here we see that the shop will process the order on the same day, if it was left before 02:00 pm, that is, until 14:00 in their time, thus, if we ordered before 14:00
There is a chance that we it will be processed and sent almost immediately, or with a difference of 1-2 hours.
If not, then they simply postpone it to the next day.
Always keep in mind that in 90% of shops, order processing takes 24 hours.
Just always take a 24 hour deadline.
Just information on processing on the day of order, this is purely for you, but be prepared for the fact that it will still be 24 hours
custom service
Here you will find out information specifically for the shop, phone \ working time \ email
Opening hours are extremely important for us to call.
If there is no opening time, usually the call rings from 10:00 am (10:00 am according to their time)
We gray further, then go to Gift, already in this shop there are about liquid goods
garmine / shunto / selfie cameras
These cameras are more abruptly gopro. Lists they.
For quick search, you can simply check the brands.
Let's move on to the Gift.
I think you understand the essence of warming up, look at the goods, choose this for 20-30 minutes from 20-30 minutes.
I recommend always driving the first one with an average amount of gift.
Here the maximum gift is $ 1000. Drive in means $ 200-250.
Send via - what will sending Gift be choose Email - sending by email.
Mail - by regular mail, this will be a plastic card, or a brochure in which there will be a code under the protective layer, erase the layer with a coin)
Recipients email - soap the recipient's address of the Gift.
Let me remind you that both mails are our mails.
To - this is who the gift is, that is, the name.
Sometimes it can be written not TO, but for example Recipients name, that is, the recipient's name
Greeting - there are only 40 characters of congratulation.
Just write Happy Birthday then.
From is from whom
In this case, here they ask for the name of the sender.
We take from ss. Add to cart. Let's move on to the design.
Proceed to checkout
I will enter the data CC and scroll down, because there were frames that jerked off CC during the drive)) thus, we tried to drive in for almost 1.5 hours, taking new cards.
Such frames of course were in some molasses, but you will not have any difficulties there the card number, date, color and that's it, there are no secrets.
Further, either the card is dead, or there is not enough money, or the order is accepted for processing and just wait.
Here we indicate not mail, but ours.
Click Place Order
Forgot your phone.
I write either cardholder, or phone CH, but with a mistake.
For example, the phone is CH 1234567890, and I write 12345567890.
I change the number on this screen, we see a successful drive. The card is alive, there is money on it.
We must save the order number
At the bottom we have a registration window - we enter a password, create an account in which you can track what is with the order.
I usually don’t worry because everything comes to the post office, and if it doesn’t come, I write or call the shop.
Also, note that you cannot reuse mails in a shop.
We can no longer use these mails in this shop, only in others.
But for example, they prepared 10 shops, you can have only 2 mails for them - 1 recipient, 1 sender and that's it.
You drive every mail into each shop, but you can't repeat it, sometimes of course you can)) I used it, BUT, if I know how the shop works, its merch, and processing, that is, this is not the first one, and already with experience.
The recording can be stopped.
Now let's ask questions about the stages of carding"?" Who did not understand what?
bulbik
how long can you use the driven gift?
user80 Pasted the
address by copying?
s1mple
bulbik: I use it in 3-4 hours, or if it comes at night (according to my time), then I use it in the morning, it will be evening.
user80: yes, not all shops track this
koba787
1 - how many cc were spent in this particular case?
alexflex
how much in the initial stages did you manage to earn per month?
koba787
reason I ask, should we get upset 2-3-4 after a dead card)
s1mple
koba787: CC gives mans, I think 10 bucks
alexflex: If a direct look very, very beginning, worked in 0 by investing in their education, and after that growing
koba787: not worth it of course
dat_user1
Gift came? I have had it so many times, the current did not reach for some reason) I did not know how to track and scored)
s1mple
dat_user1: tracked through the sender's account, or the recipient's mail. Gift does not often fall by an instant, it depends on the merch setting, until it came even if the Gift fell by the instant, this is not very good, because when you comrade, they can start checking on the Gift, and this can happen.
centurion_52 The
shop was nonVBV or card?
s1mple
centurion_52: almost all nonvbv shops in us have
not forgotten anyone ? seems to have answered everyone?
centurion_52
Doesn't show the shop during training kill him like that?
s1mple
centurion_52: not everyone will drive in, + not everyone will be sent, so no
centurion_52
at the beginning said that shops like to ring gift
s1mple
centurion_52: yes there is such, but as a rule they send a letter saying that you will call us
centurion_52
and then just call via GW?
s1mple
no, we give a call, he will call with the substitution of the
centurion_52 number
and if the knowledge of the language allows?
dat_user1 will I
Take your proxy from video?)
s1mple
centurion_52: you can buy a vulture, there is a Narayana service, install it and call from it.
dat_user1: you probably can't, because it's 911 socks, but try it.
Gift card, E-gift, gift certificate, gift voucher or gift token are different names for a prepaid card, the balance (face value) of which can be spent in a particular store or chain of markets. There are two types of gift cards: physical and electronic.
Technically, it is a generated code (sometimes along with a password) for a specified amount for payment in a store. Most often, the desired denomination can be selected when placing an order, there may also be boundaries, for example, from $ 5 to $ 1000. After the purchase, it is sent by e-mail or, in the case of physical cards, to a real address.
The idea is simple: money as a gift may be socially irrelevant, and instead of a thing that may be useless, a “Gift Card” is used as a gift and the recipient decides what to buy. Simply put, a ready-made card is a full-fledged, independent payment tool without banking transactions.
As a result, due to its popularity with consumers and the convenience of fraudsters, anti-fraud systems are taking particular care in this direction. Therefore, to believe that the realm of gift cards - "the promised land" - is wrong and naive.
Characteristics of gift cards.
1. Electronic.
There is an unusually widespread myth: "An electronic gift card cannot be blocked." This is not true, the balance of the card in this case is nominal; information is stored in the merchant's or bank's database. This means that the cards themselves are returnable and the probability of blocking depends on the material, anti-fraud system, "weather" and so on.
From the buyer's point of view, the financial turnover from ordering and receiving a card to purchasing or transferring to a third party is entirely within the scope of online activity. This eliminates the risks associated with the delivery address and the sale of goods. However, it does not override a variety of client verifications and billing address validations.
2. Physical. In contrast to electronic cards, physical cards also have a material carrier of information - plastic, bar codes, and a magnetic stripe. This makes blocking less likely (more difficult for the issuer to intervene) than unambiguously refundable electronic ones, but it all depends on the type of physical card and store.
Since a physical card is an object delivered by courier services, an address with all the ensuing consequences is required to receive a parcel: AVS, a niche for sale, opening hours of shops or post offices, shipping (and many official intermediaries do not accept them).
3. For physical and electronic in general. In theory, the card may have an expiration date or additional commission upon purchase, however, these parameters are now regulated by law and are almost never found in the West. It is practiced in the CIS countries, which, for obvious reasons, are not taken into account.
Also, there are two types of cards: one-time and upgradeable. Unlike one-time ones that burn out after use, updatable ones save the code (or a combination of code-password) with the ability to re-enter the balance - usually via a link leading to the presentation of the card (comes to the mail) or somewhere on the store page.
In addition, the cards have restrictions on the regions in which they can be applied, for example: US, EU, Canada, Worldwide / RegionFree. Depends on the nature of a particular store (local, global) and its assortment - in the global, regional cards can also be sold.
As a rule, the details and conditions of use are indicated in the product description, and the region can be additionally marked in the name of the card with a note like “Gift Card Europe / EU”.
Features of gift card shops.
There are four types of gift card shops: standard, reseller, specialty, and corporate.
1. Standard. Clothing stores or other stores, with the ability to sell cards of your (and only your) brand. In other words, store "A" can only have "A" cards, not "B" or "C". Gift cards are a good marketing ploy, so many people use them to expand their assortment or for advertising purposes.
Standard stores have a generalized anti-fraud system, where gift cards are treated in the same way as orders of other categories, or with slight deviations (preset rules). Thus, this type of store is the easiest to operate.
However, it is important to note that the overall level of the store's anti-fraud system matters - if it is extremely high, the statement “most simple” may become irrelevant.
2. Intermediaries. Continuing the analogy, these are again clothing stores, but in which, in addition to cards "A", there are also "B", "C" and others. If in the first case the cards are marketing, here they are a developed category of goods and one of the items of income, and orders can be considered in parallel with clothing.
Due to these circumstances and their result - meaningful statistics, intermediary antifraud systems have a larger set of rules regarding gift cards than standard stores. Naturally, working with the second type is more difficult (all other things being equal).
In some ways, both types are connected: an intermediary can sell standard cards. For example: when it is too tough to buy card "A" in a standard store "A", you can try to enter from the other side - through an intermediary, and buy "A" in store "B". Of course, it makes sense if the anti-fraud system "B" is softer, otherwise it will only complicate everything.
3. Special. They sell exclusively gift cards and nothing else. Specialty stores focus on a single product category that is also fundamentally prone to fraudulent attacks - gift cards. Includes two types:
• secondary market - selling and buying gift cards from hands. It also happens in intermediary stores, the difference is that apart from cards, there is nothing in special ones;
• aggregators. A large number of items (usually tens or hundreds), while cards of other users are not sold.
Well-tuned mechanisms of anti-fraud systems, well-thought-out scenarios for all occasions and an extensive array of rules are not uncommon here, and the larger the aggregator, the more likely its anti-fraud system is. Consistent work with this species certainly does not go without complications and surprises.
Intermediaries (2) and aggregators (3.2) also have a common, non-obvious feature: in one store at positions "A", "B" and "C" the anti-fraud system can have different settings. More accessible: let's say that scammers buy "A" rather than "C" much more often, therefore, the procedure for confirming the order of "C" can be slightly simplified.
This simultaneously saves store resources (man-hours, checks) and makes life easier for customers, while technically statistics continue to be collected, which allows adjusting settings in real time. This partly follows from the principle of comparing fraudulent orders mentioned in previous lectures, partly from practice.
The system can be called "flexible", however, "situational" too - it all depends on the size of the store, its policy and the total number of orders. Not every store has this feature (and you don't know about it in advance), but as needed, you can try to lower the brand's liquidity.
4. Corporate. Services not for a wide audience, which are addressed by various companies and organizations on individual terms: bulk purchases, official cooperation procedures, checks. Also, the category can be in any of the types of stores - somewhere on the page you will be invited to contact support or follow the link.
In fact, closer to the deal from a legal entity, accordingly, you may need bank accounts, shell companies (or their visibility thanks to information), communication with service representatives, verification. In terms of the speed and frequency of work processes and financial turnover, the most unattractive method, but quite serious.
Work processes.
Once again, we note the importance of all components of masking: IP address, digital fingerprints and an active session-cookie, warm-up, client data. All this is especially important when working with a direction that is considered risky from the point of view of anti-fraud systems and banks, but in this context, the choice of material, stores and structure is no less important.
Between this and then. To a certain extent, the described rules are relevant not only for gift cards, but also for electronic goods in general: activation keys, game codes, virtual balances, etc. Subjects are related, meaningful details differ.
1. Material. The first thing that comes to mind is credit cards. This is the most accessible and understandable way of working, in many respects consistent with the already familiar trends: firstly, it is more efficient to use less famous banks like Chase, BofA, CapOne, CreditOne, WellFargo, Citi, TD and others.
Of course, you should not be categorical, you can work productively with everyone. But such an operation as buying a gift card (all the more, given the availability of history and "habits" of the owner) by default creates additional risks, and with the use of capricious banks, everything is only exacerbated.
Secondly, the card system (Visa, MC, Amex), type (Debit, Credit) and level (Classic, Platinum, Gold). It is insignificant for the result, except for the specifics: for example, fast chargebacks from Amex or balance from Platinum. However, it matters statistically, in the form of the permeability of certain bins - this is always important. Let us also recall the lethality of card checkers.
The second most popular method: working with PayPal. Includes brute accounts and self-registrations. In the first case, the most important element of work is gift card shops, because the order most often comes to the email of the PayPal account. The password from the account itself and the mail may not match, therefore, the order will simply be lost.
As a result, there are two options: look for stores with the ability to purchase on an alternative mail or accounts with access to mail. Self-registers (or logs) automatically solve this problem, and all other details of the work are the subtleties of PayPal itself, that is, rocking, trust, payment instruments, cancellations and limits.
The last most popular and the first most resource-intensive method: special material - enroll, bank accounts. There are no obvious advantages, but in some circumstances it can become a lifeline: request for mini-deposits or verifications, work with corporate stores and services (for example PayPal), balance issues and billing.
2. Answering the question about finding stores, there are no fundamental differences between ordinary goods and gift cards: it is enough to use the keywords "E-Gift cards" or "Gift certificate" all kinds of shops.
There is an easy way to find the name of a gift card that is guaranteed to go somewhere: to estimate the demand. Services for buying gift cards on our forum are concentrated in the section "VCC, prepaid, checks, gift cards, coupons, vouchers". In their list, you can find brands of different liquidity (the more% in your favor, the more liquid).
In addition to private services, there are peer-to-peer financial exchange platforms such as Paxful. This is a site for exchanging cryptocurrencies, bank transfers, payment systems and, among other things, gift certificates between users.
Here and on similar resources, the interest rates for the exchange of certificates can differ favorably, or you can find some interesting name of the store, with which the "locals" do not work. Unfortunately, usually in such services there are extremely unpleasant conditions - various verifications.
Liquidity is determined by the store's product: brand awareness of clothing, electronics, appliances and market demand vary from 15 to 90 %. In addition, liquidity serves as a kind of indicator of the complexity of a store to work, albeit inferior. The higher the percentages, the at least the "standard" stores are more demanding.
This, however, does not exclude the likelihood of finding an easier "intermediary". So, having chosen the name, a path opens to search for stores that have the required certificate in stock: "Buy" A "Gift Card". If the work is still not built using standard means, you can resort to tricks: enhanced warming up, user-agent of the phone, bedding.
In addition, a search by product categories ("notebook", "phone") together with keywords ("Gift cards") or a banal check of the assortment of everyone who is not lazy will notice "standard" stores that are not involved in the turnover of "aggregators" and do not have "intermediaries". In short, unpopular.
3. The structure of the work. When interacting with stores, there are three main strategies: using someone else's accounts, your own, or using a call. Logs, all sorts of accesses or brute-accounts (with or without their own, saved payment tools) can be referred to as "aliens". To "own" and to work as a call - registered manually.
When touching other people's accounts, you should refer to the information on the relevant topics, since working with gift cards in this case is one of the ways to monetize accounts, and not vice versa. Mentioned for the purpose of providing information rather than as a guide to action.
Placing an order by calling (ringing) is built similarly to any other forms of this work: substitution of a phone number, contact with store support. In the context of gift cards, it can be regarded as an alternative “approach” if the usual methods are no longer valid, as well as in the form of tests and information mining.
Then, having defined the goal and strategy, you can move on to work with the store. Basic warming up and masking are absolutely the same as when working with clothing items and in order not to repeat themselves, these details will be omitted. On the other hand, the direction of gift cards has distinctive features that are worth considering in detail.
Basket. Gift cards are quite mobile goods, the order with them can be modified. For example, 1 unit of goods with a nominal value of 200, 2 units with a nominal value of 100, 4 units of 50 - in all cases the amount is equal to 200, but each of the orders will be different. Moreover, the order can be placed together with any other product, conditional "socks" to the client's address.
Also, for electronic cards, you can select the delivery date, in other words, timed. All this in different combinations (today "socks", tomorrow the card) is a kind of warm-up, with the help of which you can earn store loyalty. At the same time, it should be remembered: no "socks" in the order will relieve you of the evaluation as a "order with a certificate".
Logically, dealing with liquid stores is more difficult than dealing with illiquid ones. Sometimes you need to lower the amount of orders if you want to regularly sell only those certificates for which they give from 50%. With illiquid ones, on the contrary, because the work is relatively easier - you can increase the amount, thereby leveling the difference in percentage. For example:
A liquid certificate with a face value of 200 can be sold for 50%, minus investments (for example, $ 15 - a card and socks), the net profit will be: $ 85. In an illiquid store with a lower antifraud level, the denomination can be increased to 400, then at a rate of 25% per certificate, the profit will be the same ($ 85), but the difference in antifraud systems will remain.
The example is formal and does not take into account the performance of the material or losses, but in practice it says that it is not necessary to immediately rush to liquid stores and it makes sense to give preference to illiquid ones, especially being inexperienced in this area.
E-mails. At the stage of registration and then, placing an order, you will need to enter a total of two mails: the client (buyer) and the addressee of the electronic gift card (recipient). Both parameters are included in that array of anti-fraud system rules, which ultimately determine the fate of the order. Priorities, on average, are:
• a decent domain from among @gmail, @yahoo, @hotmail / outlook, @aol, in extreme cases - @mail.com;
• if technically feasible, then corporate ("@ mysite.com") or specific like @comcast, @cox, @att;
• preferably with a name in the address - [email protected]. If the name is taken, you can add numbers - [email protected] but without fanaticism;
• the recipient's name can be generated on sites similar to this: https://www.fakenamegenerator.com or, at least, combined from different;
• undoubtedly, registration of social networks by mail and temporary staying can have a positive effect.
For diversity reasons, you can use a different domain for the recipient's email, such as the Gmail buyer, while the recipient is yahoo. This is not to say that mail plays a major role in the evaluation of an order. But there is also reason to believe that these parameters are still taken into account, depending on the anti-fraud system.
In many stores, you can ignore the opportunity to send the certificate immediately to the addressee, instead using delivery to yourself or simply entering the buyer's mail in the recipient's field (to then donate in person, use it yourself, etc.). The method is viable, but the concept of “recipient” may well increase store loyalty.
Personal message. A gift certificate is usually accompanied by something like a "postcard" - the text written by the buyer when placing an order in a special field on the product page. There is no need to write in verse or mathematical formulas - it is enough to compose a meaningful, natural message.
It can be birthday greetings, wishes on the occasion of a wedding, anniversary, funeral and other memorable events; a simple thank you or, say, a quote from a book. On the Internet, you can find entire sites on this topic for the request "congratulations on ... in English", which, nevertheless, are already worn up and down.
Leaving the field blank is not a good idea, because the message is somehow part of the whole customer image. Writing the same thing every time, especially in the same store - the idea is even worse for obvious reasons. The solution is simple: to replenish vocabulary with semantic constructions from the aforementioned sites and be creative.
AVS & Phone. When working with electronic certificates, there is no point in manipulating billing - the order comes by e-mail, unlike physical cards, which require a parcel delivery address. And yet, in addition to the address, billing has a phone number, and a call from a store, as you know, can become a nuisance.
Historically, the number is not a completely accurate billing attribute (having several, separating it into work and home is completely normal), therefore, as a countermeasure to calls, it can be changed. Despite this, at least for electronic certificates it will be better to leave the number correct.
Reasons: firstly, most stores are more likely to ask to be contacted than to call themselves, and if they call, it is either a small store with a small number of orders, or an "error" in terms of statistics; secondly, the correct number is a positive feature through the eyes of antifraud systems. For physical change as needed.
Time orientation: when to work and how long to wait for results. With physical cards, you need to take into account the working hours and dispatch of parcels of the store, electronic ones for the most part do not depend on time, with the exception of manual verification of orders during non-round-the-clock work of operators in small stores.
The typical purchase results for this area are as follows:
• Instant. Execution of the order instantly or within 5 minutes. For electronic gift cards, a positive result, for physical gift cards - conditional, since the order has not yet been delivered;
• Instant Cancel, Decline and Verification. Cancellation immediately or within 5 minutes (Cancel), refusal before ordering (Decline), and request for verification. It does not differ from working with other categories of goods and demonstrates a negative response from the anti-fraud system, problems with a payment method or a store;
• Answer from 20 minutes to 12 hours - either order fulfillment or cancellation. In the case of gift cards, this is the average processing time without taking into account the working schedule, but if the store previously gave an instant answer, it may mean re-analysis of the anti-fraud system or the operator's check of the order;
• Over 24 hours. Generally a bad sign: manual checking is almost inevitable; attempts to contact the owner of the material are possible. Moreover, it is not uncommon for a prolonged silence to be followed by the blocking of an account in the store if the client has been identified as a fraud.
Important note: some types of reactions may not be foreseen in principle - for example, processing will always take 12 hours. In such a situation, it will be possible to understand the attitude of the anti-fraud system only on the basis of the "Yes / No" results. Usually, you can find the approximate frames on the checkout page or in the product description.
For example, if something similar to "Instant Shipping" is written - apparently, there is a technical ability to process orders quickly. On the other hand, this is also influenced by the general condition of the anti-fraud system: at some point in time, due to the "bad mood", it will not be inclined to compromise, regardless of the actions of an individual client.
Purchase - purchase of a physical product using a gift card. A physical card can be sold at a local store, an electronic card can be paid online. It is not possible to use physical for payment on the Internet or electronic in a local store with every brand.
The craft of gift cards, in particular electronic ones, allows you to use all the advantages of the sphere at once: AVS, completely online activity, a developed economic niche, relative independence from specific stores and services (not counting material suppliers, of course).
With all this, it is not always possible to implement a card in a stingy service or sell it on the forum, for example, due to its illiquidity; in addition, the certificate can initially be bought for the purpose of merchandising, for reasons of a specific assortment, brand, store, or for other reasons. And if this happens, you should follow the instructions.
First, payment: in stores there are restrictions on product categories, for example, you cannot buy another gift card with a gift card. Then the button for payment with a certificate will be inactive and / or this prohibition may appear in the product description.
A store account can have a top-up balance in order to deposit a number of cards for use at the same time. It looks like this: the position is worth 1000, the total balance for a one-time payment is added with two certificates of 500 denomination.
If there is no balance, then during the checkout process, they may allow the use of several different certificates as a payment method. And on the contrary, these options may not exist at all - there is no balance and payment with only one certificate, and if the product is more expensive - an additional payment.
Second, addresses: stores, especially liquid ones, are biased towards the addresses of well-known intermediaries and forwarding services, and even blacklisted them. A dubious address is a risk factor and it's best not to try your luck if possible. There is a complication on the side of intermediaries: not everyone accepts gift cards or goods paid for by them.
Of course, the order is made with a disguise (IP address, system) of the desired country and location for the addressee of the gift card (it is assumed that the buyer gives the card to a third party as a gift). In this case, it is not necessary that the name coincides with the one entered when purchasing the card - an uncritical indicator and in which case it is decided by a call.
Third, to check the operability and balance of the card on the store website there is almost always a special column (or button, page) with the name "Check Balance / Check Gift Card". Check if necessary, preferably from the IP address and masking of the country of the owner of the material, otherwise you can provoke blocking of both the card and the account.
It is better to move from receiving an order to purchasing after a natural period of time, say, a day or several hours (if you buy on behalf of the person to whom this gift was handed over), but you can transfer the certificate to the services of a stingy immediately.
Reuse of payment methods - credit cards, accounts of payment systems. A cost-saving solution that is particularly effective in this industry. The amount of an order with a gift card is, on average, an order of magnitude lower than when working with other categories of goods, which ultimately kills less material and wastes balance.
Two scenarios for material reuse:
• after order cancellation (Decline, Cancel, blocking). It is rational when it is impossible to check the performance of the material with the supplier and subsequently return the money if he turns out to be dead. Non-returnable bases, elapsed time for verification, simple reluctance, etc.;
• after the implementation of the certificate (sale, merchandise). Implementation should be considered the receipt of goods "on hand" or a net payment, until then subsequent activity increases the likelihood of death of the material, and hence the first order. However, these circumstances are influenced by the type of material and the rate of return.
After the cancellation, it is necessary in order to more accurately verify the quality of the material and masking. If the order went to another store (with a different anti-fraud system), it seems that the matter is in the anti-fraud system of the first one and the client; if you cannot write anywhere from the word at all, even lowering the liquidity or the amount, there must be a problem in the material.
When used after implementation, it maximizes profits with virtually no additional financial costs if masking elements such as an IP address are still available. This raises two pertinent questions: which store and the amount of the order to work with.
Firstly, working with the same store is advisable only with minor changes in the disguise, otherwise the chance of re-evaluating the client from scratch increases and the loyalty earned by a successful purchase may evaporate. If the IP address is already out of date, it is worth choosing a new store or postponing the case on the back burner so that the changes are understandable.
Secondly, the amount of the order. In order to avoid the same type of actions, it is better to order in one store for different amounts - more or less, depending on the type and level of the card. In different ones - as desired and without kinks, and if there were changes in the masking, then you can lower the amount in order to slightly ease the pressure on the material.
Speaking about the time after which it is acceptable to use the material again, the recommendations are as follows: after canceling, you can not delay and work immediately, warming up a new store, but you can go the other way - do not shake the material with many attempts one after another, since it can hypothetically be alive - waiting, for example, a day will not make it worse.
After implementation, you need to strike a balance between the desire to try and the pattern of ordinary buyers. Of course, buying oneself with a certificate every couple of hours is at least suspicious, at the same time waiting for months is not an option.
Ultimately, it remains to try somewhere between "immediately" and "sometime in the future", and then adjust the behavior in accordance with the reaction of certain bins and anti-fraud systems. Unfortunately, there are no universal answers.
As for accounts of payment systems, the health status in most cases is known, because they mostly have access. If the order does not go through, this shows the degree of trust and swing of the account itself. There are no differences in time, except for the characteristics of the payment system (calendar restrictions on expenses, etc.).
When re-ordering, it is reasonable to change the recipient of the gift card. In general, the reuse of material not only brings additional profit and understanding of the operation of certain stores, but also allows you to determine the vector for solving problems, to make sure of the material, disguise, bins.
Summing up everything described above, we can safely say that the field of gift cards is rich and difficult. Alas, this is not the best option for a beginner, but if the choice has already been made, you should not start with the most liquid and complex stores.
That's all. Moving on to the questions, put a "?"
htuf_alf
does it make sense to use the map as part of the store warm-up?
Yes, but this is a question from the area of warming up, not working with Gift. You need to understand that warming up consists of many parameters and one specific indicator in most cases will not play the main role, gift is it or something else.
izolenta
How many, approximately, approaches "successful" can be done with one CC?
If we take into account only those that have already been implemented once, then from one to three, in the best case - 5, but this is a direct mark of the limit.
yarah
as always, great lecture. However, it also mentions "not the best option for beginners" again, okay, could you guys lead us to the best option for us beginners and give us a complete practical step by step method to get started practicing and making money?
thanks
Illiquid for different billing / shipping under the sting; redoubt - in short, a thing.
goldenbaum
Is it possible to use a flood or some kind of spam to the CH mail, etc. in order to get lost in the KX mail, so as not to change the mail and load the AF?
Yes, flooding is used quite often.
yarah
if you can say it in English that would be great, because the translation came out a bit out of shape : p
Reroute, illiquid staff on a different bill / shipp.
pana-cashe
how quickly do I need to redeem a certificate after purchase?
It is better to move from receiving an order to purchasing after a natural period of time, say, a day or several hours (if you buy on behalf of the person to whom this gift was handed over), but you can transfer the certificate to the services of a stingy immediately.
riba12
did I understand correctly - that almost any shop has a gift system, and that it is easier to beat the gift (at the beginning) than to try to beat things with a problem by changing the beat / spike, etc.?
No, not every shop has Gift, and it is not even the simplest sphere to call it. Plus, things are a very broad concept: both ballpoint pens and hours for thousands of cu. e. - things.
ibintegral Will
we have online gifting or clothes?
Gift.
The same as in the case of goods: the larger the amount, the more likely additional vigilance may arise. The average bill in gift boxes is from 50 to 500.
Since there are no more questions, thank you for your presence and wish you good luck.
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Lecturer: s1mple
So, well, everyone drove the lecture so far.
I think you already know that Gift \ e-gift - These are gift certificates.
E-gift - sent to soap
Gift is a physical map sent to your home address.
Because it is a gift, you must act as if you are choosing a gift.
When you give a gift to someone, you also wish something, health / happiness, etc.
So here too, if this is not done, questions may arise.
If I understand that the shop is serious, I do the first or second hammering in order to feel it, I always leave a good long wish.
Forget translate for these cases, because it will be clumsy to translate, because our spoken language is different from USA.
Therefore, now I will give a link where you can watch congratulations.
They have been translated into English already, and the translation there is extremely good.
This website is temporarily blocked
You can also change the themes of congratulations.
Soon the new year, which means the gift will be very willing to give, the fraud will weaken, therefore, here's a mini case) in the new year the gift goes very well - a couple of days before ng, and after ng
Also the main point, the gift like to ring , either ask you to call, or they will call themselves, but as a rule, they usually always ask - this is the norm, they are afraid that this is not necessary.
Just check the number cc \ exp \ color \ billing address \ mail of the sender of the gift \ mail of the recipient of the gift \ congratulations, that is, all the info that you indicated.
I will answer in advance, because each stream is a person who asks such a question))
All our mails! The sender's mail is ours, the recipient's mail is ours. We have a password and access to them. These are our mails.
We use mail as a sender - to check further what happened to the order, the call request will come to her or some third-party problems, like cancel, etc.
The recipient's mail is 100% access because the gift will fall specifically there.
Now a few words about buying Gift or selling to buyers.
In the early stages, when I was a newbie like you, I climbed to carding Walmart / Victoria Secret, etc.
Better not hit them yet. Will come with experience.
You just waste money and good cards, and the stingy usually take one of the super top shops.
BUT nothing bothers you, start writing to all the stingy people on different forums and find out for your shop which you can drive or offer your own.
As a rule, many can take it.
I also made gift for food, and wrote to all stingy.
As a result, I sold to buy-ups + on the paxful site, but, you ask, how do you work then if you can't beat the top shops.
You can throw off some gifts to the stingy if they agree and will take it.
If not, you can just comrade in the middle / drop. But there is a nuance here.
In the name of the recipient of the Gift, you need to indicate the name, which will then be used to redeem it.
Regarding small and more or less medium-sized shops
If the name does not converge, they will not send the goods of the
top and medium shops by gift, this does not apply, they usually do not care, or there is no link to the name
further, you have chosen the product, and when you pay, you simply enter in the line GIFT CARD NUMBER or GIFT CARD the number of your GIFT
can sometimes be a GIFT of the form Number: ************* Pin-code: *******
This is the same when making a purchase, just write the card number and pincode and all
Card pincode is Gift.
Different merchandise and different types of gift display Someone
just has a number, and someone has no difference between them with a pincode, sometimes it is done for security purposes
What do I do and how, in principle, I work
After the goods arrived in the middle, I do not immediately pull him to my country.
I make a few more Gift in different shops to accumulate goods in the middle.
Only then I pull myself or sell it in the middle with the product, or separately, or already in my country I sell it to friends / acquaintances, everything is scattered very well.
Otherwise, there are a lot of avito / olx sites or some other. I do not beat shops until I lose my pulse, because of this, I have shops that constantly send gifts, without any problems for about 5 years already.
Not so long ago I pushed my list of shops, and everything was also sent.
The less you drive into him, the greater the chance that in the future he will also confidently give you, but, for this, you need to constantly supplement your list.
Some shops after receiving the pack, I can not drive in for about a month, and sometimes even half a year.
There are pluses in this, and good ones.
For example, you will inject a bunch of Gift into one shop a week.
If they were rarely taken there, then the shop will think about it and start doing more serious checks.
As a result, it can pull your product back (if it is still on the way) or turn to the cops, who, upon request, will go to the address in the middle, and in the middle everything will give out all your goods.
Therefore, I work according to such a strategy, but even if it happens that you run out of money or you withdraw your entire bank, then you have shops in which you inject 1 cc and you will immediately have a profit and thus you will always have money, even if, for example, you are testing something, spent a lot, then you have a rear in such shops that have been sent to you and will be sent because they are not fucked up.
At this stage, do you have any questions? in the order of the queue put "?"
dat_user1
Will you share some shops?))
s1mple
shop will be available today during the online show,
it still gives without any problems
izolenta
that is, we do not hit one shop a lot and are looking for other shops
s1mple
If you weigh Gift every day, you will simply kill him,
this applies to small and medium-sized shops, for top or medium-sized shops - they are often weighed out with Gift
koba787
af weaker when we buy Gift ? or does he not care?
s1mple
af on gifts is always higher because you send to an email address, as the delivery address is not a billing address, thus you have a fraud.
BUT shops are accustomed to this and do not pay attention to it because they understand that sending is sent to e-mail, therefore they do not worry, and if you drive an address (an address in the middle or a drop) onto the spike, you will be canceled in a great chance.
koba787
when do we buy Gift? not when we buy Gift, but when we pay part of it with GIFT.
When we buy Gift there is no fraud at all.
A sock is better for the state or city where we are shopping.
It doesn't matter, but it's better to just do it better.
koba787
It turns out it makes sense not just to siphon gifts, but to use them for a large purchase to reduce the anger af?
s1mple
Stop, no. The product is not driven in.
You drive in with ss. If you attach another gift there, you will simply lose everything and there is no sense in it at all
s1mple
drove in, got a gift, bought
izolenta
What is the difference between large and small shops? Only fraud? Or are there more features? And I still don't understand the meaning of Gift if AF is higher and it is more difficult to work with Gift in terms of money. less profit. Or am I missing something?
user80
How much money can you buy at a time in a small shop?
s1mple
centurion_52: either it is indicated in the gift, or there is no term
user80: depends on the maximum gift in the shop, I will explain this when driving in
deadhasan2
I make a gift in the name of the drop and buy them for the drop I understood
centurion_52 correctly
I mean that the gift can die from the charge?
s1mple
izolenta: it is easier to work with Gifts, I say, shops are used to the fact that Gifts are fraudulent, they do not make serious checks on them. Of course, they have top-end and antifraud is completely different, there you will have instant cancellations.
centurion_52: they can recall it of course
user80
i.e. can not buy several Gift at once?
s1mple
but the shops have a mark, when you carding, you put a checkmark that gift non refundable, but, as a rule, it does not really affect this) if they charge that charged:
user80
why not? it is not possible to combine Gift with different packs in all shops, and if there are several Gift in a shop in a row for the same name, then they will already be checking.
What do you mean by different packs?
well, 2 gift, 2 goods, 2 packs
Several gift, bought one pack.
A couple of days later we bought another Gift, for another pack, provided that it was the same shop.
If they are different, then at least immediately, one Gift was purchased, went to another shop, and purchased.
so if there are no more questions then now go to zoom.
Setting the sphere it is by default.
There are no special serious aspects in it.
something deeper, will come with experience, and if there is a need for it at all.
I use if the sphere, I use purchased or generated configs. Genesis is not always good, because it just selects the parameters for you.
Purchased configs - these are casts of a real system
sock has already written - this is 911 socks
Config generation.
I uncheck Use Sphere GL.
Sometimes shop banners are displayed incorrectly with it.
At least in Amazon there are problems, so I almost always cut it off with the purchased config, you have a minimum setting because your config is real hardware.
Buy configs for devices, MacBook / iPhone / iPad. It flies with a bang.
Another point - never go to a shop via a direct link. Direct link is here so when shop.com
go this way or shop com
or just shop
where the shop - this is our store's name
I check time there is a time zone use whatleaks or fake vision.
We go to the shop and start to warm up. We warm for 20-30 minutes.
Always take the rule - warming up for 20-30 minutes is minimal.
For example, I warmed hotels on a booking for about 2-2.5 hours) because the hotel is not liquid, the direction, and the amount is high.
Now we will not be warming up for 30 minutes, so as not to delay, I will just show exactly the meaning of warming up and how it is done.
So that you have the essence of
warming up - this is stuffing visits on the site - cookies.
Any of your actions will be visible in terms of cookies, and the most important aspect during driving, check the rules of the shop.
You, as a real buyer (as we pretend to be), should be interested in the policy of the shop)
How they send it, which cards are accepted for payment, the time of order processing, etc.
This information will be extremely important to us.
We start walking around the shop.
Warming up is extremely easy, you just poke, look, read, in general, make it look like a real buyer.
You choose a gift or a product.
The coolest thing is when gifts are made by an advertising banner on the site, they say, you walked around the shop, chose a gift and such: "Oh, there are gift cards" and this will be reflected in visits to the site that you chose the product, and clicked on the banner.
I do not warm up in the live chat from the word at all. I can just ask questions about the order or clarify something.
Why do I find warm-up in live chat bad? For example, you have a CC, the name is Ivan Smith, you said in the chat that your name is Ivan Smith, you communicate, ask questions The manager is loyal to you, you make an order, clap, the card is invalid or there is not enough money.
You take another CC carding but the manager will not have loyalty to you, but, on the contrary, will already be on the alert.
You take the goods that Ivan Smith took, and the name on the card you already have Petr Ivanov - 2 different people at all.
You are wasting time + loyalty of the manager + probably everything and the order too.
We see quick links here and there is shipping information, information on the shop, etc.
This is what I told you about when driving in, always check.
The shop sees that you have read this info, which means you have a real interest in the specific work, how it is delivered, etc.
When you buy something for your money, we automatically do the same.
We look at the items for delivery, how and where, how much it costs
So here you can analyze your real purchase, and do against the background of this by driving in the shipping details.
Here we see that the shop will process the order on the same day, if it was left before 02:00 pm, that is, until 14:00 in their time, thus, if we ordered before 14:00
There is a chance that we it will be processed and sent almost immediately, or with a difference of 1-2 hours.
If not, then they simply postpone it to the next day.
Always keep in mind that in 90% of shops, order processing takes 24 hours.
Just always take a 24 hour deadline.
Just information on processing on the day of order, this is purely for you, but be prepared for the fact that it will still be 24 hours
custom service
Here you will find out information specifically for the shop, phone \ working time \ email
Opening hours are extremely important for us to call.
If there is no opening time, usually the call rings from 10:00 am (10:00 am according to their time)
We gray further, then go to Gift, already in this shop there are about liquid goods
garmine / shunto / selfie cameras
These cameras are more abruptly gopro. Lists they.
For quick search, you can simply check the brands.
Let's move on to the Gift.
I think you understand the essence of warming up, look at the goods, choose this for 20-30 minutes from 20-30 minutes.
I recommend always driving the first one with an average amount of gift.
Here the maximum gift is $ 1000. Drive in means $ 200-250.
Send via - what will sending Gift be choose Email - sending by email.
Mail - by regular mail, this will be a plastic card, or a brochure in which there will be a code under the protective layer, erase the layer with a coin)
Recipients email - soap the recipient's address of the Gift.
Let me remind you that both mails are our mails.
To - this is who the gift is, that is, the name.
Sometimes it can be written not TO, but for example Recipients name, that is, the recipient's name
Greeting - there are only 40 characters of congratulation.
Just write Happy Birthday then.
From is from whom
In this case, here they ask for the name of the sender.
We take from ss. Add to cart. Let's move on to the design.
Proceed to checkout
I will enter the data CC and scroll down, because there were frames that jerked off CC during the drive)) thus, we tried to drive in for almost 1.5 hours, taking new cards.
Such frames of course were in some molasses, but you will not have any difficulties there the card number, date, color and that's it, there are no secrets.
Further, either the card is dead, or there is not enough money, or the order is accepted for processing and just wait.
Here we indicate not mail, but ours.
Click Place Order
Forgot your phone.
I write either cardholder, or phone CH, but with a mistake.
For example, the phone is CH 1234567890, and I write 12345567890.
I change the number on this screen, we see a successful drive. The card is alive, there is money on it.
We must save the order number
At the bottom we have a registration window - we enter a password, create an account in which you can track what is with the order.
I usually don’t worry because everything comes to the post office, and if it doesn’t come, I write or call the shop.
Also, note that you cannot reuse mails in a shop.
We can no longer use these mails in this shop, only in others.
But for example, they prepared 10 shops, you can have only 2 mails for them - 1 recipient, 1 sender and that's it.
You drive every mail into each shop, but you can't repeat it, sometimes of course you can)) I used it, BUT, if I know how the shop works, its merch, and processing, that is, this is not the first one, and already with experience.
The recording can be stopped.
Now let's ask questions about the stages of carding"?" Who did not understand what?
bulbik
how long can you use the driven gift?
user80 Pasted the
address by copying?
s1mple
bulbik: I use it in 3-4 hours, or if it comes at night (according to my time), then I use it in the morning, it will be evening.
user80: yes, not all shops track this
koba787
1 - how many cc were spent in this particular case?
alexflex
how much in the initial stages did you manage to earn per month?
koba787
reason I ask, should we get upset 2-3-4 after a dead card)
s1mple
koba787: CC gives mans, I think 10 bucks
alexflex: If a direct look very, very beginning, worked in 0 by investing in their education, and after that growing
koba787: not worth it of course
dat_user1
Gift came? I have had it so many times, the current did not reach for some reason) I did not know how to track and scored)
s1mple
dat_user1: tracked through the sender's account, or the recipient's mail. Gift does not often fall by an instant, it depends on the merch setting, until it came even if the Gift fell by the instant, this is not very good, because when you comrade, they can start checking on the Gift, and this can happen.
centurion_52 The
shop was nonVBV or card?
s1mple
centurion_52: almost all nonvbv shops in us have
not forgotten anyone ? seems to have answered everyone?
centurion_52
Doesn't show the shop during training kill him like that?
s1mple
centurion_52: not everyone will drive in, + not everyone will be sent, so no
centurion_52
at the beginning said that shops like to ring gift
s1mple
centurion_52: yes there is such, but as a rule they send a letter saying that you will call us
centurion_52
and then just call via GW?
s1mple
no, we give a call, he will call with the substitution of the
centurion_52 number
and if the knowledge of the language allows?
dat_user1 will I
Take your proxy from video?)
s1mple
centurion_52: you can buy a vulture, there is a Narayana service, install it and call from it.
dat_user1: you probably can't, because it's 911 socks, but try it.
